Everything I've read has been VERY disappointing. I knew it wouldn't match Sandy Bridge, but I was hoping for it to be at least on par with Nahalem. This would have been a good CPU when they announced it 4 years ago, but damn. Guess I'm sticking with Intel for my next build. _________________ CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k
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Joined: Aug 10, 2007 Posts: 2949 Location: USA / Illinois
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:55 am Post subject:
have you seen this yet ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKN4VMOenNM&feature=player_embedded _________________ Thermaltake Kandalf LCS
Intel Core I5 -3570k @ 3.4ghz auto OC to 4.3ghz
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
Kingston HyperX Red 16gb DDR3-1600mhz 10.10.10
Gigabyte GTX 660 Auto OC core@1150mhz/mem@1500mhz
Corsair 850TX 850watt
ASUS Xonar DX
WIN7 Ult 64bit- Black WD6401AALS 2x640GB/ Mushkin SSD 60gb
ASUS 23" 1080P IPS LED (VS239H)
It doesn't seem that bad, especially reading the anandtech review it seems that if you oc it to the 4.6+ghz range it will easily out-perform anything. The gaming performance is sad, but for workstation/workplace environment, I would definitely choose AMD as the price/perf is better and you don't need all the "shiny" stuff with Intel.
Amd just works and like they said as it gets better I see amd returning. If this is like how the p4 was, then that means the next one in a few years.. well hmm...
Will be Amd's Core 2 duo _________________ Processor: i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz 1.24v
Sound: Asus Xonar DG w/ unified driver.
Ram:Kingston Hyperx DDR3-1600 @ 9-9-9-21
Vid: 7970 @ 1160/1650
Mobo: Gig p67a-ud4-b3
Hdds: 1tb Hitachi desktar. wd caviar blue &black 320 gb RAID 0 100gb patriot inferno ssd
hsf: xspc raystorm
RAVEN 3 case
PSU: Ultra 750w (Tier 2 brand :s for model)
Processor: Phenom II x3 @ stock
mobo: cheap asus ftl, now gigabyte something
GPU: 560 ti stock
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500gb & 120gb muskin (60gb inferno failed)
RAM: 8gb G Skill 1333 @ 7-7-7-20
Case: Raven 3
PSU: CM Silent Pro 850 Watt
HSF: Hyper 212+ 2x Blademaster
It doesn't seem that bad, especially reading the anandtech review it seems that if you oc it to the 4.6+ghz range it will easily out-perform anything. The gaming performance is sad, but for workstation/workplace environment, I would definitely choose AMD as the price/perf is better and you don't need all the "shiny" stuff with Intel.
Amd just works and like they said as it gets better I see amd returning. If this is like how the p4 was, then that means the next one in a few years.. well hmm...
Will be Amd's Core 2 duo
yup the processor is bad at 4.6 if u look at guru3d.com review still cant beat a stock i7 980x and also the power draw on this processor is just ridiculously High. back in Evga Forum Mad People are Converting to intel 2600k and selling there Socket AM3 + Mobo's they been waiting for a long time for theese bulldozer after all those delays expecting it will beat the current i7 but to no avail it is very disappointing. u better off wit Pile Driver after bulldozer. its much better to get an i7 2600k which is a very good overclocker it can hit 5.0 ghz wit good cooling wit almost all batches. plus its only like 70 dollars more. a 4.6 ghz 2600k vs 4.6 bulldozer the 2600k will put it to shame its not even a competetion. Not To mention the Person Behind The Buldozer Project Dirk Meyer Stepped Down Months Before Bulldozer Was Released well he knows the project was a failure and it is.
Guru3d Review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150-processor-review/12 _________________ i7 3930k @ 4.6
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Gigabyte X79 UD3
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120 GB OCZ Vertex 3 (O.S/Programs)
120 GB OCZ Vertex 4 (Games)
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Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 1544 Location: Hamburg Germany
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:08 am Post subject:
Quote:
To put it very simple, the hardware needs the software in order to shine. However, the problem remains that most software anno 2011 certainly doesn't multi-thread as well as we all would have hoped.
Most applications go for two, maybe four cores. It's already hard to utilize six threads simultaneously, let alone eight. As such, per-core performance is much more important than more processor cores.
That is a matter of time though, I mean we had the single core to dual-core revolution, quickly followed by four, six and thus now eight cores. So where multithreaded applications are programmed right AMD really starts to shine with the FX series.
Same thing back then when x2 was faster then x4 on the softwareside.
I think its too early to go for 8 cores. You will maybe benefit from it when the next Console Generation arrives and 8 cores getting fully utilized, but Intel will have next gen Cpus out by then, that make this amd FX- series look pretty old.
so this release fails in 2011 +1
On the other hand: This should be a good futureproof choice on the longrun when you wanna upgrade now. Vga Power matters much more these days anyways.. _________________ ______________________________
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE !!!
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Joined: Aug 18, 2007 Posts: 1572 Location: Ireland
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject:
I will still go with a blldozer , but I will go for a six core CPU. I never had any luck with Intel over the past four years. _________________ Case : Corsair Obsidian 800D (Want to change this for a quieter case and a bit smaller)
CPU : Intel Core I5 760 @ 3.6GHZ 1.2V
GPU : Palit GTX680
Motherboard : Asus Maximus III Gene
RAM : 8GIG Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600mhz
Power Supply :Corsair HX1000
Monitor : Iiyama B2409HDS 1080P
Soundcard : Asus Xonar D2
Speakers : Logitech Z906
To put it very simple, the hardware needs the software in order to shine. However, the problem remains that most software anno 2011 certainly doesn't multi-thread as well as we all would have hoped.
Most applications go for two, maybe four cores. It's already hard to utilize six threads simultaneously, let alone eight. As such, per-core performance is much more important than more processor cores.
That is a matter of time though, I mean we had the single core to dual-core revolution, quickly followed by four, six and thus now eight cores. So where multithreaded applications are programmed right AMD really starts to shine with the FX series.
that make this amd FX- series look pretty old.
so this release fails in 2011 +1
+ 10000000000000000 _________________ i7 3930k @ 4.6
Corsair H100 Push/Pull Set Up
Gigabyte X79 UD3
16 GB Ripjaws 2133 MZH 9-11-10-26-1T
3x MSI GTX 680 Twin Frozr in Tri-Sli (1228 Core/7.00 Ghz Mem)
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3 (O.S/Programs)
120 GB OCZ Vertex 4 (Games)
Antec High Current Pro 1200
X-Fi Titanium HD
Coolermaster Haf-X Blue Edition
Turtle Beach X42 Wireless 3D Sorround 7.1
Samsung 27A950D 120HZ 3D LED
console ports /multiplattformcrap ftw
all you need is a Quad and a decent Vga-card nowadays
_________________ ______________________________
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE !!!
Your Assuming Im Human, Thats Your First Mistake. My Verse Will Make The Earths Crust Burst Then Perspirate.
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"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again"
console ports /multiplattformcrap ftw
all you need is a Quad and a decent Vga-card nowadays
geez man those bulldozer results are just pathetic what waste of money. might as well get the cheaper phenom 2 1100T and overclock it. _________________ i7 3930k @ 4.6
Corsair H100 Push/Pull Set Up
Gigabyte X79 UD3
16 GB Ripjaws 2133 MZH 9-11-10-26-1T
3x MSI GTX 680 Twin Frozr in Tri-Sli (1228 Core/7.00 Ghz Mem)
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3 (O.S/Programs)
120 GB OCZ Vertex 4 (Games)
Antec High Current Pro 1200
X-Fi Titanium HD
Coolermaster Haf-X Blue Edition
Turtle Beach X42 Wireless 3D Sorround 7.1
Samsung 27A950D 120HZ 3D LED
console ports /multiplattformcrap ftw
all you need is a Quad and a decent Vga-card nowadays
geez man those bulldozer results are just pathetic what waste of money. might as well get the cheaper phenom 2 1100T and overclock it.
It's bad for the money yes, better off with a phenom but to these people saying amd sucks etc. that's not true. It's a work in progress compare hd 4 series to the 5 when ati shit on fermi ver. 1 it was only ver. 2 when nvidia caught up and the next gen is anyone's guess.
(this 560 ti overclocked is a monster tho, beating a 570 for just under 2 billz ) _________________ Processor: i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz 1.24v
Sound: Asus Xonar DG w/ unified driver.
Ram:Kingston Hyperx DDR3-1600 @ 9-9-9-21
Vid: 7970 @ 1160/1650
Mobo: Gig p67a-ud4-b3
Hdds: 1tb Hitachi desktar. wd caviar blue &black 320 gb RAID 0 100gb patriot inferno ssd
hsf: xspc raystorm
RAVEN 3 case
PSU: Ultra 750w (Tier 2 brand :s for model)
Processor: Phenom II x3 @ stock
mobo: cheap asus ftl, now gigabyte something
GPU: 560 ti stock
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500gb & 120gb muskin (60gb inferno failed)
RAM: 8gb G Skill 1333 @ 7-7-7-20
Case: Raven 3
PSU: CM Silent Pro 850 Watt
HSF: Hyper 212+ 2x Blademaster
console ports /multiplattformcrap ftw
all you need is a Quad and a decent Vga-card nowadays
geez man those bulldozer results are just pathetic what waste of money. might as well get the cheaper phenom 2 1100T and overclock it.
It's bad for the money yes, better off with a phenom but to these people saying amd sucks etc. that's not true. It's a work in progress compare hd 4 series to the 5 when ati shit on fermi ver. 1 it was only ver. 2 when nvidia caught up and the next gen is anyone's guess.
(this 560 ti overclocked is a monster tho, beating a 570 for just under 2 billz )
did u say the HD 5 series shit on GTX 480? cuz as far as im concern looking all the benchmarks the Nvidia GTX 480 Fermi Gen 1 shit on ATi HD 5000 series i could give u all the benches if u want. Honestly AMD prolly will never caught up with intel for a long time with the coming Sandy Bridge E AMD has NOthing to counter that heck they dont even have something to counter the i7 980x line of cpu's which is just plain pathetic "I bet Intel is Laughing their ass off" Maybe Pile Driver which they said its only 15 percent faster than bulldozer Lmao! what a joke, then when that comes out Intel will counter it Ivy bridge wit 3d Transistor Technology And theres no way pile driver is faster than that and i can bet money on it.
Edit: Hitler Founds Out Bulldozer Benchmarks Lol this is EPIC!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SArxcnpXStE _________________ i7 3930k @ 4.6
Corsair H100 Push/Pull Set Up
Gigabyte X79 UD3
16 GB Ripjaws 2133 MZH 9-11-10-26-1T
3x MSI GTX 680 Twin Frozr in Tri-Sli (1228 Core/7.00 Ghz Mem)
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3 (O.S/Programs)
120 GB OCZ Vertex 4 (Games)
Antec High Current Pro 1200
X-Fi Titanium HD
Coolermaster Haf-X Blue Edition
Turtle Beach X42 Wireless 3D Sorround 7.1
Samsung 27A950D 120HZ 3D LED
_________________ ______________________________
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE !!!
Your Assuming Im Human, Thats Your First Mistake. My Verse Will Make The Earths Crust Burst Then Perspirate.
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"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again"
Joined: Nov 08, 2008 Posts: 317 Location: Florida, USA
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject:
While I can live with the crappy performance, the power draw is what I am really disappointed with. It only seems to be able to match a 2500K in heavily threaded benchmarks, but it uses TWICE THE POWER. They are moving in the wrong direction here- efficiency is the name of the game these days. Intel brought out a chip 20%-40% more powerful that uses half the power. AMD brought a chip that's about the same performance but uses more power. I really, really wanted AMD to get back on track to keep the competition going, but they really bombed it here. And yea, they may be making it 10-15% better in another year, but what about Ivy Bridge? That's going to be a jump the magnitude of what Sandy Bridge was to Nahalem. I'm starting to doubt AMD will ever come back.
I will give them this though- the new APU's are fantastic. I have set up several systems with these chips and they are quick and run cool. I think AMD has a real future in the portable market if they keep working on these APUs. _________________ CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k
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