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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: 9800 GX2 Reply with quote

Fudzilla has dreged up a price estimate for the GX2

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5126&Itemid=1

Apparently it's going to cost at least as much as an 8800 ultra (about £400). Considering an 8800gts 512mb is only £200, you could get a pair with the full retail cooler for the same price (or cheaper).

Alternatively keep an eye out for good deals on a pair of GTX's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seriously cant see any reason to buy that GX2. I think it would better to buy two GTX's when they get cheap enough (which should happen when the 9 series cards come out) I might even get a second 8800GTX when they drop in price to my budget. That way I should be sorted for a long time with my Q6600.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the smart move - sure a 512mb gts is about as powerful as a GTX, but only at lower resolutions and only if you keep the AA low. At higher resolutions and with a reasonable amount of eyecandy, the gtx has it for breakfast.

I'd expect the difference to get bigger when you overclock. Sure, the gts will take a hefty overclock on the core (not that the gtx does badly), but it's still crippled by the memory bandwidth. As soon as you do something that needs more than 512mb, or more importantly more memory bandwidth, the gtx'll pwn it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rembered about half hour after I posted that , that the IP 35 pro is crossfire. So theres no point in getting another GTX LOL.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really wish they'd get together and release an Intel chipset with SLI. Can't see it happening though, SLI is the only selling point for Nvidia's Intel boards.

If your P35 is like my 965, the 2nd pcie 16x slot is only rated at 4x, and disables all your 1x slots if you use it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the second PCIe slot is only 4x so its probably the same. Shame its not SLI though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real bugger if you actually wanted crossfire - 4x would bottleneck anything worth buying.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. Thinking of it that way the 9800GX2 would be kind of worth the buy but it would realy need the PCIexpress 2.0 bandwidth to work properly.
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I can only really see it being viable if you've got an ATI or Intel chipset. Pointless if you've got SLI. Didn't think of this before, but you'd actually do better from a pair of oc'd GT's - nearly as powerful, but much cheaper.

After my experience I'm cautious about recommending pcie 2.0 cards for 1.0 mobos. Speaking of which, the retailer's agreed to give me a full refund for my g92 GTS, so I'll buy a GTX when the money hits my account. Razz
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yeah the problem with the IP35 PRO is its only PCIE 1.0. I would have waited a few more days but this motherboard is failing on me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve30x wrote:
yeah the problem with the IP35 PRO is its only PCIE 1.0. I would have waited a few more days but this motherboard is failing on me.


No probs here Rolling Eyes
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HMMM Maybe AD got a dud card or maybe its just a problem with the p965 chipset and the PCIexpress 2.0 cards then.

Hey goz could you post your settings for your oc please so that I will have someplace to start with my OC when the parts arrive.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vcore 1.48 ( Droops down to 1.4v underload)
Cpu VTT 1.27
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this 8x450......
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thanks man Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HMMM Maybe AD got a dud card or maybe its just a problem with the p965 chipset and the PCIexpress 2.0 cards then.

Hey goz could you post your settings for your oc please so that I will have someplace to start with my OC when the parts arrive.


Still can't get my head around it, probably never will get to the bottom of it. Gigabyte reckoned the GT would work, so it could be the GTS is more fussy.

BTW, thought all p35's were pcie 1.1.
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